Breaking Through the Hingerty Brick Wall

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Breaking through the Hingerty Brick Wall

Hingerty YDNA Report 5 May 2022

You can build your family tree for your Hingerty line starting with you and going back through your parents, grandparents, and so on, back to the mid 1850s using the standard tools of birth, marriage and death records, supplemented by shipping records, court records etc.

In the mid to early1800s, the Civil and Church records for Ireland become patchy and then disappear. You cannot link your ancestors back further than their supposed birth dates in the early 1800s. 

You hit the HINGERTY BRICK WALL.

You can jump over the wall and find Hingertys in the 1700s and O'Hingerdells in the 1600s. You realise that many of the O'Hingerdells became Harringtons and a few became Hingertys. You can use the ancient genealogies to find that your clan chief was Ilongardel but you can't connect the dots from the 1800s back to these men.

You can't even work out how your Hingerty of the 1800s is related to the other Hingertys alive at the same time. 

Are they father and son, uncles, brothers, uncles and nephews, daughters, wives, aunts, sisters??? 

You hit the HINGERTY BRICK WALL.

YDNA is the one tool available to you to break through this brick wall.....

.....you can test Hingerty males on the four family lines with Hingerty male name bearers alive today in Australia, USA, UK and Ireland in order to make use of the slowly mutating SNPs of the Y chromosome to indicate branching points with indicative timeframes to produce the much hoped for family tree which would show how the various lines are related and smash through the brick wall to beyond the 1800s.

Five fabulous Hingerty males have volunteered for YDNA testing to date - A simple mouth swab, a long wait for the results and then we have data to work with in order to break through that pesky brick wall....

So What's New in May 2022?

(To read the previous report of March 2022 go to https://hingerty.blogspot.com/2022/03/ydna-project-latest-developments-march.html)

Big Y results for MJH (Aust) and DH (Stafford UK) were received in May which confirmed the results reported in March.


A closer view of the Hingerty family clade



A more simple chart


Australia:

Tester MJH (Aust) fitted into the Australian Hingerty sub-clade of R-FTB81293 dated about 160 years ago. This timeframe would bring us back to Thomas Joseph Hingerty (1868-1940) OR his father John Hingerty (1815-1889). 

Since all Australian testers to date have been descendants of Thomas, we can't be sure which man (Thomas or John) is represented by this mutation.

To explore this mutation further, we need to test a direct descendant of Thomas' brother John Alexander Hingerty (1864-1909) to see if they share this same mutation. 

Worldwide:

All the Hingerty testers to date share a common direct male ancestor (R-FTB79857), however an accurate timeframe is yet to be determined (anywhere from 80 to more than 900 years) because there are so many equivalent SNPs yet to be identified with testers. 

The large blue Block of Equivalents (indicated by the red circle) contains 8 SNPs each of which could be a branching point in the tree. To cause a branching point you need two testers both testing positive for that mutation. Once two testers test positive for a single mutation, that branch point is added to the Tree of all Mankind at the appropriate place (and timeframe). 

You can see how the process worked with the creation of the Australian sub-clade because PH and JH (and now MJH) share the mutation/SNPs  R-FTB81293.

USA and UK:

Currently, the results for MH (USA) and DH (Stafford UK) sit under the Hingerty family clade of R-FTB79857. 

To break into that big blue block of equivalents and cause the formation of separate USA and UK branches, we need to make use of a process called the Rule of Three. 

We have our first testers for each of the USA (namely MH) and UK (namely DH). We now need a close relation of MH and a close relation of DH to test (Tester 2 for each line) AND a distant relation of each to test (Tester 3).

A close relation to MH would be son, brother, first cousin.

A distant relation for MH would be a distant cousin who is a descendant of Alfred Delaney Hingerty OR  a descendant of Charles Demetrious Hingerty.

We need the same for DH - there are a few close relations who could test (nephews, first cousins once removed) but we would need to make use of an Ireland Hingerty branch member as the distant cousin.








Five fabulous testers have gotten us this far.... 

there are no more test results pending....

to move forward we need six more testers to step forward:

- two closely related descendants of Thomas Hingerty 1889 (Lancashire and Ireland) 

- a close relation to MH (USA)

- a distant relation of MH (USA)- descendant of Charles Demetrious Hingerty or a line other than Thomas Rice Hingerty.

- a close relation of DH (Stafford UK)

- a descendant of John Alexander Hingerty 1864 (Australia) 


hingerty@one-name.org


Please make contact if you are willing to take the simple mouth swab and assist Hingerty family research.

hingerty@one-name.org



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