Hingerty One Name Study

Created by CH and ChatGPT (AI)            Updated- 19 July 2024      There were two Harrington                families in the Templederry area of Tipperary.....       Were these two Harrington families related?      Were they related to  Hingerty/Ingerton families? Did the ancestor of the first Harrington family in the Templederry area arrive from south west Cork with The Great March of the O'Sullivans in January 1603?? Let's begin with a bit of geography....  Where is Templederry?   Where were these two Harrington families located in relation to each other? Location of Templederry in Ireland Location of Templederry in Tipperary Family 1: Family 1 was discussed in a previous post in July 2023  Link to previous post Descendants of Family 1 still live and farm in the Cloghinch area.  Their family oral history has them arriving in the Te...

  What we know now that we didn't know before: 1. All Hingertys are related . We have now tested 11 Hingerty males who represent at least 2 male testers from each of the 4 existing Hingerty lines who have males alive today. They all match each other on both STR and SNP testing. That is, they all share a common direct male ancestor. 2. The Time to Most Distant Common Ancestor (TMDCA) is currently estimated to be around 1717 . This date may change as more testers are tested and more data becomes available. 3. Using this current date of 1717 as a ball park figure and estimating the number of generations needed to 'fill in the gaps' from the known most distant ancestors of each of the 4 lines, we can guesstimate that the Hingerty testers are about 7th or 8th cousins to each other. 4. Our Hingerty testers match (more distantly) Harrington males from Cork . This supports the hypothesis that we were all originally of the O'Hingerdell clan which occupied lands in the Cork townl...

 The Big Y 700 test results for tester SH from Australia are now in.... and the good news is that they have revealed a SNP (a YDNA mutation/variation) that most likely formed when John Hingerty (1813 Tipperary-1889 New South Wales) was conceived! Our Hingerty YDNA tree now looks like this (the new SNP being marked with a star) Thank you to SH who tested- his results have made this identification of the "John Hingerty" SNP possible. As stated in the January YDNA report: Our focus now needs to turn to the Irish and Stafford lines. You need two testers to both be positive for a SNP and all others to be negative, for a new SNP to be named and dated.  To achieve this state of affairs you need two men who are closely related to test.   This has yet to be achieved on the Irish and Stafford lines as there are to date only one tester on each of these lines.  Our research cannot progress without these additional testers. Further testers on these two lines will assist us to: -...

Background: We currently have nine Hingerty BigY700 testers representing the four exisiting Hingerty lines with living Hingerty males. We have the results of eight of the tests, the most recent (BH, USA) becoming available this month (January 2023). The ninth test (SH, Australia) was only taken and posted to the lab in Texas in late December. We will have those results in a few month's time. We are using a combination of: * Genealogical data * STR data from YDNA testing (111 Markers) * SNP data from YDNA testing (BigY700)  to answer our two research questions  Are all Hingertys related?  How are they related? Thank you to our "Hingerty Heroes" JH, PH, MJH, SH, BH, MH, WH, DH and RH for taking the YDNA tests and allowing our research to progress. (Click  here  to view a video presentation introducing you to YDNA and the Hingerty YDNA Project.) What the results have revealed to date: All Hingertys are related: STR Evidence: All Hingerty testers match at the STR 11...

Earlier this year we were invited to contribute Hingerty YDNA results to the Munster Irish Project on FTDNA given that our little clan was originally located in that part of Ireland. Two Australian and one USA Hingerty testers joined the Munster Irish project at FTDNA. One of the Admins of the Munster Project, Nigel McCarthy had a particular interest in researching the relationship between O'hlongardail/Hingerty/Harrington lines and the McCarthys and asked if he could focus on that particular relationship.  (To see this website click  here ) Nigel has compared our Hingerty YDNA results to those in the MacCarthy project and in phylogenetic trees on the MacCarthy website and in emails, he has shared his insights into the relationship between the Ohlongardails and one line of the MacCarthys. In an email he explained that, " The two principal dynasties in early 2nd millennium Munster were the O'Briens of Thormond and the MacCarthys of Desmond, though they were not all conqueri...

  Why do we think that Denis and Patrick were brothers? I have found no direct documentary evidence that they were brothers ....... Online trees that have them as brothers have no sources for the relationship. They were both married in the Monsea, Tipperary area in a similar time period. Denis married on 6 February 1834 with residence listed as Loghorna. I have been unable to find this location on Google maps- there is a Lahorna.... could this be the same place?? Witnesses to the marriage were Patrick Hogan and Mary Wh (indecipherable). Patrick married on 25 February 1835 with residence listed as Drumineer which is 1 1/4 hour walk from both Monsea and Lahorna (opposite directions). Witnesses to his marriage were William Gleeson and Catherine Quirke. Therefore, while they were both married in the Monsea parish area, it does not appear that they were both living in the same immediate area and did not share close friends or relations as witnesses to the nuptials, nor were they witnes...

"Father Hingerty" is the man in whom SNP R-FTB79857 formed. He is the Most Recent Male Ancestor to seven Hingerty males from Australia, USA, Stafford and Ireland who have taken the BigY YDNA test at FTDNA. (Two more tests are pending) The estimate for his birth year moves around as more Hingerty males test and thus more SNP data is available for analysis. The estimate when the above chart was produced was 1746.  The latest estimate has moved further back in time and currently has a Mean of 1712.  Let us therefore suppose he was born sometime in the early to mid 1700s. Do we know of any Hingerty males alive in Ireland around this timeframe? The records are few and far between and often do not contain important information such as location....however, we do have a few candidates: 1. James Hingarty is listed in Betham's Genealogical Abstracts for 1749.  "James Hingarty, son Ryan, son Joseph, daugh Elinor, Kings County."  We therefore assume that James is married ...

  My father always said "all Hingertys are related".  To test his assertion, in May 2021 I launched the Hingerty Surname One Name Study. This study included the use of YDNA testing of living male Hingerty name bearers to prove that they did (or didn't) share a common direct male ancestor. To date seven Hingerty males have tested, with at least one tester for each of the four existing Hingerty lines  (Australia 3, USA 2, Stafford 1, Ireland 1).  The results for the most recent tester have started to come through including the match lists for the 111 STR Markers. Green- Australia , Blue- USA , Orange- Stafford All the seven Hingerty testers are a match to each other at the 111 STR Marker level. This means that all seven share a common direct male ancestor within genealogical time. So, we can say with certainty that all Hingerty name bearers alive today share a common ancestor and are therefore related. My father's assertion has been proven! Thank you to the "Hinge...

  R-FTB79413  The USA Hingerty Haplogroup! Recently 'WH' of the USA tested with the BigY700 YDNA test at FTDNA and his results are in! .... and, because of his test, we have a new branch on the Tree of All Mankind that represents the descendants of Thomas Rice Hingerty born in 1864 in the USA. How exciting is that! And....(drum roll please)....we are one step closer to identifying (and therefore being able to estimate a date for) the shared direct male ancestor of all Hingertys alive in the world today!  The Hingerty YDNA Tree now looks like this: Note: You may have noted changes in the date predictions from my previous  post on this topic. As more men test generally on BigY700, and as more Hingerty men test, the time estimates are refined- a YDNA test is the test that keeps giving as FTDNA constantly refine results as more tests are taken. The 'Holy Grail' is to identify the SNP Variant/Haplogroup for the men: *   John ? ( Australian Hingerty ancestor ),...

  In a previous post I listed some of the various ways that the surname HINGERTY can be recorded or indexed.  Hingerty- How do you spell that? But sometimes there are surnames that appear not to be a spelling variation or an indexing error, but different names altogether- or are they? A case in point are the surnames HINGERTON and INGERTON.... 1. Are these surnames totally independent of each other and the surname Hingerty?  OR 2. Are they related to each other because way back in time they all derived from the older Gaelic name of O hlongadail? OR  3. Are they more closely related and all from the same wider family group with some branches changing the spelling of their name since/during the 1800s????? Hingerty and Hingerton appear in records about the same time and in the same geographic areas in Ireland, making it look very much like they were variations of each other. Evidence has been found of there being 'shifts' between all three names in the early records i...