YDNA Project- Latest Developments- March 2022

Hingerty YDNA Project Report

13 March 2022

What are we trying to find out?

1. Are all Hingertys related?

2. How are they related?

Context:

* Hingerty is a rare surname, with few living direct male descendants.

* Only 4 male ancestors have direct Hingerty male descendants alive today- William (USA), John (Australia), Patrick (Stafford), Denis (Lancashire and Ireland).

* Our focus has been on YDNA and the male descendants because the connections between the 4 lines will be in the early 1800s/late 1700s which is just at the edge of usefulness of atDNA (found in both males and females, randomly recombined for every new birth), whereas YDNA is very stable and is handed down directly from father to son with mutations occurring (on average) only every 82 - 110 years.

* There have been major recent developments in the effectiveness of YDNA tests and an increase in the number of men testing from Europe and Ireland which in turn has developed the Tree of All Mankind for the R Haplogroup resulting in the tests being relevant to genealogical time (last 300 years) as well as the deep past.

* There is a growing body of knowledge re testing strategies, selection of candidates etc - freely available from experienced YDNA Project Administrators to enable the effective use of YDNA to prove relationships within the genealogical timeframe.

* Four Hingerty males, descendants of ancestors from Australia, USA and Stafford have taken YDNA tests over the past few years. The Big Y results for 3 of these testers are now available.

* We await the Big Y results for the Stafford tester- due in another few months.

What have we found out to date?

* Our migration path from Africa to Ireland: see previous blog post Out of Africa- Hingerty Origins

* Our surname was present in southern Cork in the 12th Century and there was a Townland named for the clan. See previous blog post Is this the Hingerty Homeland?

* Our surname was geographically and DNA linked to the surname Harrington, supporting the supposition that Hingerty is an anglicised form of O'Hingerdell which was more often anglicised to Harrington. See previous blog post Hingerty YDNA Match List Revelations

* The descendants of William Hingerty (USA), John Hingerty (Australia) and Patrick Hingerty (Stafford) have a YDNA match to each other indicating a shared common male Hingerty ancestor i.e they are related. See previous blog post Hingerty DNA Match!

* A Hingerty family clade/haplogroup R-FTB79857 was identified and named on the Tree of All Mankind. See previous blog post R-FTB79857- The Hingerty Haplogroup

So what is new in March 2022?

* Big Y results from a new tester from Australia (PH) were received which caused developments/changes in the Hingerty section of the BigY Block Tree.

A closer view of the Hingerty family clade:

A more simple chart:

* Having two testers from Australia caused the formation of a family sub clade for the descendants of John Hingerty (Australia).

This sub-clade is dated at about 160 years from the testers (JH, PH) to the man who first exhibited the mutation called- R-FTB81293 which no previous direct male ancestor had but which the 2 Australian Hingerty testers (JH, PH) both have.

160 years (very approximate) would take us back to Thomas Joseph Hingerty (1868-1940) or his father John Hingerty (1815-1889).

To explore this mutation further we need to test a direct male descendant of Thomas' brother John Alexander Hingerty (1864-1909) to see if they share this mutation.

(NB a YDNA mutation/variation does not result in any actual mutations in the body- it is inert in terms of any affect on the development of a human being).

* The Big Y block tree shows that the 3 testers (JH, PH and MH) share a common direct male ancestor, however an accurate timeframe is yet to be determined (anywhere from 80 years to more than 900 years).

The block of Equivalent Variants listed under the SNP R-FTB79857 (the blue box) need to be broken down through further testers undertaking the Big Y test.

At the moment these SNPs are Equivalents and no accurate timeframe can be allocated- it is hoped that the results of Stafford tester (DH) will assist in this process and cause the formation of more 'branches'.

* The USA tester (MH) is still grouped under the larger Hingerty sub clade R-FTB79857 (the blue box).

We need to test a close relation to MH and a distant cousin descendant of Alfred Delaney Hingerty (1862-1936) and/or Charles Demetrious Hingerty (1842-1895) in order to identify the SNP mutation/s or variant/s in that blue box that relate to the USA Hingerty branch.

What happens next?

* We wait for the Stafford tester's (DH) results. It is hoped that his SNP matching will cause the large block of (blue) variants listed under FTB79857 to further subdivide and produce a Stafford family sub clade within genealogical time frame. The results are due late April/early May.

What else do we need to do?

* Recruit descendant/s of Thomas Hingerty 1889 (Lancashire and Ireland) to test initially at Y37 STR Markers to confirm a direct Hingerty line. This is the only other existing Hingerty line alive today.

* Upgrade said Thomas Hingerty descendant tester/s to Big Y 700 to, hopefully, form an Ireland family sub-clade and/or confirm the relationship of Patrick (1840-1903) and Dennis (1849-1889).

* Recruit a close male Hingerty to MH (USA) to take a Big Y700 test to create a USA sub clade.

* Recruit a distant male Hingerty from a line other than Thomas Rice Hingerty (1864-1940) in USA to test initially at Y37 STR Markers and then upgrade to Big Y 700 to define/refine the USA family sub-clade.

* Recruit a close male Hingerty relation of JH and PH (Australia) to take Big Y700 test to further refine Australian sub-clade. This has been done and the test ordered as at 13/3/22.

* Recruit a male Hingerty descendant of John Alexander Hingerty (1864-1909) in Australia to test at Y37 STR Markers then upgrade to BigY 700 to further define/refine the Australian Hingerty family sub-clade.

Exciting times!

What seemed an impossible dream just a few short years ago is within our grasp.

With careful selection of suitable testers, the willingness of candidates to test and careful analysis of the results, within the next 12- 24 months we may be able to answer the big Hingerty research questions- at least for the few lines available for YDNA testing.

What other exciting things could YDNA tell us in the future?

With careful selection of potential testers we could explore:

* Are Hingertys related to Hingertons or Ingertons, or Hingerlys- or the many other variants that exist/ed in Ireland in Tipperary in the 1800s?

* How closely are Tipperary Hingertys related to Tipperary Harringtons? How are they related?

* How closely are Cork Harringtons related to Tipperary Hingertys and Harringtons? How are they related? Note: One Cork Harrington is already a member of the Hingerty YDNA Project.

Side note:

YDNA testing is not a cheap exercise.

A Y37STR Marker test costs $USD119

Big Y 700 costs $USD449

To upgrade from a Y37STR Marker test to Big Y700 costs $USD339.

To date all costs have been borne by CP of Stafford, MH of USA and CH of Australia.

If you would like to contribute to the funding of this project please go to the Hingerty YDNA Project page on FTDNA and donate using the blue DONATE button.

All funds donated can only be used for YDNA testing, are held by FTDNA and allocated by the project administrators MH (USA) and CH (Australia).

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