North Tipperary Church Records- Good News & Bad News

-

 

Nenagh RC Church 1906

North Tipperary Church Records-


Good News & Bad News













My Holy Grail is a Baptism record for my direct ancestor John Hingerty (?1813-1889) who arrived in Sydney as a farm servant in his twenties in 1841. 

He reported that he was from Templemore, Tipperary.

Having found a John Hingerty leasing farming land in Barnane-ely from 1823 to 1836 (Tithe Applotment Lists), and Barnane-ely being located not far from Templemore, I pinned my hopes on this being 'my' John's father (or close relation) and that I would find church records in this area of Tipperary.  

I trawled through church records for any north Tipperary parish as they became available online.

Parish records for North Tipperary are found in various places and in various formats (indexed, unindexed, filmed, paper based etc)- on line records have been increasing in number and coverage over the past few years. It was always my hope that as more records were made available,  one day John Hingerty's Baptism record would emerge.

As time went on I would have been happy with any mention of a Hingerty family in this part of Tipperary- a birth, a marriage, a burial, witnesses at a non-Hingerty marriage, sponsors at a non-Hingerty Baptism.

 John Grenham has a list of available Tipperary RC records and how to access them on his website Tipperary RC Church Records

Realising that RootsIreland had every available record for North Tipperary on it's subscription based website, I decided to take the plunge and take out a short term paid subscription in order to make sure that I had not missed a Hingerty reference in my trawling (and trying to read Priests' very poor handwriting!).


Unfortunately, searching their index of church records from across all of Ireland for the Hingerty surname (and all the possible spelling variations) yielded no new records  : (

I emailed the North Tipperary Genealogy Centre who have the responsibility to make all the parish records in that area available via RootsIreland just to double check that there were no more records waiting in the wings to be digitised or indexed. They confirmed that their list is the complete list for North Tipperary.

So the GOOD NEWS is that we live in a time when we can access an index that includes every record in every Catholic parish in North Tipperary that has survived to the current day.

The BAD NEWS is that we have such access and no records for John Hingerty and his family have been found.

So, where does that leave us?

John and his family must have lived in a parish where the records for their times do not exist....... this means that we will NEVER find a church record for John and his immediate family : (

Our only (small) hope would be that John and his family actually came from an area outside North Tipperary and records may emerge in the near future- not every county has completed its digitisation task as North Tipperary has done.

However, we know that Hingerty families lived in a relatively small and concentrated area- the range of other parish areas they may have come from is small and very soon ALL parish records in these areas will have been processed........

I will take out another Roots Ireland subscription once I have been assured that all records for all areas where there is any evidence of any Hingerty families having lived have been indexed- if John and his family are not in those records, then we will know that we will never find them as they do not exist.

At least then we will know.......

Leave a Comment or
Send an Email
hingerty@one-name.org




Comments

Post a Comment

Popular posts from this blog

Hingerty YDNA Project- January 2023 report

-
Image
Background: We currently have nine Hingerty BigY700 testers representing the four exisiting Hingerty lines with living Hingerty males. We have the results of eight of the tests, the most recent (BH, USA) becoming available this month (January 2023). The ninth test (SH, Australia) was only taken and posted to the lab in Texas in late December. We will have those results in a few month's time. We are using a combination of: * Genealogical data * STR data from YDNA testing (111 Markers) * SNP data from YDNA testing (BigY700)  to answer our two research questions  Are all Hingertys related?  How are they related? Thank you to our "Hingerty Heroes" JH, PH, MJH, SH, BH, MH, WH, DH and RH for taking the YDNA tests and allowing our research to progress. (Click  here  to view a video presentation introducing you to YDNA and the Hingerty YDNA Project.) What the results have revealed to date: All Hingertys are related: STR Evidence: All Hingerty testers match at the STR 11...
Read more

Is this the Hingerty Homeland?

-
Image
Is this the Hingerty Homeland? Place names in Ireland often reflect the clans and families who previously occupied the land. While researching early references to the O'hlongadail name, I came across "Family Names of County Cork" by Diarmuid O Murchadha. He mentions the townland of  Kippaghingerghill  in the Bantry area of Cork. The name Kippaghingergill translates to "Long plot of land belonging to the O'Hingerdills". This is what it looks like if we zoom in a bit closer. Overlaying the "South West Ireland 12th Century Clan Map"  with Google Maps, it looks like Kippaghingerghill is in the same area as the clan map locates the O'Hingerdill. For further information re pronunciation, meaning and references to this townland, see Irish department of Heritage and Culture  for this location. The website  townlands.ie  has this boundary map and details So, is this the Hingerty Homeland? The map lines up, the names lines up.... and it does line up with...
Read more